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Post by Matt on Apr 23, 2006 14:10:23 GMT -5
I encourage anyone who is paid by load, or recieving a load bonus to post their comments. Do you feel it pays better than a flat hourly wage. Does it promote wreckless driving? Do drivers fight over the closer or smaller loads to increase loads per day?  |
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Post by budman on Apr 25, 2006 15:03:30 GMT -5
Once again i have been there and done that! by the hour/buy the load. I think we was making like 10.50 hr + 1.00 somthing a yard! yes it did work out good for some and it did peeve alot of guys off! I personally made around 19.00-25.00 hr with that system. and yes you learned how to pour fast and effectively without peeving the contractor off buy pileing it up! the better ya was the faster ya got back ta get another.that goes for getting load rite before ya hit job,mixing while putting chutes on then blow and go. no wasted time for nothing. Yes you had to run hard but, it was no different than running dump truck for tonnage/percentage! there was alot of argueing going on among drivers. things like dispatch is playing favorites! back when we were doing that the drivers wanted to go all hourly sooo... we did and made 15.35 hr. that really hurt the guys that was humpin the loads out! some guys just dont move that fast no matter what! they felt that they were being punished! some guys have one speed slow and slower! i think all in all its a even playing feild hourly. no hurry no worry  t-bone |
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Post by concretelew on May 7, 2006 6:14:50 GMT -5
I work for Lafarge here in Maryland and have found that we make more money "Pay by Load" than by the hour. Our hourly rate is $18.43 an hour for sick days/vacation or yard work. Our pay by load rate is $49.00 per load. On the average I can make from $50.00 to $350.00 a week more by load. If broken down it makes our straight hourly pay $23-$24 per hour and over time in the $32-$35 an hour rate. The load rate goes up after 40 hours in increments. At 70 hours(and we see that many at times) the rate is almost $60.00 per load for every load. My weekly number of loads range between 20-25 a week.
Pay by load was not welcome for a while and people became cut throat but for the most part it has become part of life. We have unsafe drivers but they would be unsafe regardless of pay structure.
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Post by batchmaster on May 8, 2006 10:36:37 GMT -5
I could see that it would boost your yards per hour, etc, not so much time in between loads screwing around or whatever, but the safety thing would be my main concern. But like you said, the guys that are unsafe being paid by the load would also be unsafe no matter how you look at it. Do the trucks pay the price in the long haul? How do they look, do you guys get to spend the time washing them and keeping them looking good or isn't that your main concern because the more time you spend doing other things the less loads you haul. Just wondering what kind of stance the company takes on the look of the fleet.
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Post by concretelew on May 8, 2006 13:00:09 GMT -5
Most of the guys find the time to acid their trucks on a regular basis. Most of the time it is when we have 10-12 trucks in line waiting to load or just after the last run. Everyone realizes that we don't get paid extra to keep 'em but do well enough with our income to take the time to have pride in our rides. Lafarge trucks are white with green in the logo and everything shows.
As for the trucks taking a beating... they do get run hard and run well over the scheduled services. Hard to keep up with the breakdowns at times.
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Post by batchmaster on May 9, 2006 8:05:48 GMT -5
well in the same sense where you have guys being unsafe no matter how they are being paid, I would imagine that the same goes for keeping trucks clean, the guys who are going to keep a dirty truck would still keep a dirty truck and the guys who keep a clean truck are still going to find the time to keep that truck clean.
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Post by concretelew on May 10, 2006 15:42:09 GMT -5
correct !! ;D Just got off a 2 am start and am pooped, 410 yard slab all chuted between 2 and 7 am and then off to the total of 1300 for the day...... [glow=red,2,300]phew Good night.......[/glow]
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Post by batchmaster on May 12, 2006 6:51:28 GMT -5
wow so how many loads did you get on wednesday? what kind of operation does your company run, as far as number of trucks/drivers and such, sounds like you made some loot that day. now being paid by the load, do you get any kind of load premium for the early start?
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Post by concretelew on May 12, 2006 17:03:12 GMT -5
Well, there is no extra for early starts, start times are based by seniority. I'm # 8 of 21 and growing. We normally start 10 trucks early when needed and bring the rest in 6am and on. Senior guys always get the early start if we like it or not  I pulled 7 loads in 12 1/2 hours some of the guys got a few more. Can't sneeze at $350 ish for the days work. My personal best was 8 loads. I try to base my week on 20 runs and anything else is gravy. Monday is looking like a 4am on the job and tuesday 2am again. Great money but tough hours What is your operation like? |
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Post by batchmaster on May 15, 2006 9:46:50 GMT -5
right now slow...we were running nine trucks 2 years ago and to last year, we started the year here with 8 guys, now down to six, with the possibility of putting one more on. our "typical" work day here looks at like 3-4 loads per driver, 7 am to 5 pm. actual days here now look at like a 6 hour day with 2-3 loads. but, we have had days that were in excess of 10 loads...paid by the hour unfortunately for the guys. the guys here get double time from 12:01 am to 5:00 am so...we did have some 3:30-4 am starts last year, but that's the only time they get double time except on holidays and sundays. and on another note, the company i work for has approximately 130 trucks for 8 plants so...
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Post by westside198 on Aug 29, 2006 21:01:23 GMT -5
Westside 198 would like to move to a different part of the country than cali. Can someone please give me a call about a good job opportunity! Please call Wayne @ 714-522-8438
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Post by westside198 on Oct 9, 2006 19:15:51 GMT -5
Thanx for calling everyone! I posted this 2 months ago and the phone has been ringing off the hook. HaHa! not 1 call.
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Post by Matt on Oct 10, 2006 11:40:00 GMT -5
I just posted two more links to jobs in the Charlotte North Carolina area. They were posted less than a month ago on career builder. There are many other jobs available under the "Employment" thread.
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Post by westside198 on Feb 5, 2007 23:04:15 GMT -5
How much do they pay in Charlotte? does anyone else have ACI
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Post by lafargeslave on Mar 21, 2008 19:25:45 GMT -5
Intersting to see the other Lafarge driver post. I drive for Lafarge in Atlanta. Pay per Load. Although Pay per load is popular in Lafarge, each state operates its own type of pay system. Here we have an hourly base pay number, that is used to figure the per load pay. Our loads are classified into 3 load zones. Zone 1 or an "A" load is paid as 2.2 times the hourly rate. it is assumed that the zone A loads are within 20 minutes driving time to the pour site. zone 2 or "B" loads are paid as 2.8 times the hourly rate and would generally take longer than 20 minutes to get to the pour site. the last one "o" loads, are used when the plant is on the site (portable plant) and pay 1 times the hourly rate. starting pay is around $11.25 no experience. overtime is paid in a way...what happens is you add up all your loads for the week, add on any "flat rates" ($40 for cleaning/greasing truck per week, $12 for dead heading between plants or making multiple stop pours) then divide that total by the total number hours worked. take that number cut it in half, and then multiply that by the number of overtime hours that is the overtime piad for that week. for those who dont know pay per load has many variables to it. The good...as long as your at a plant that is putting out a lot of yardage, you will beat your hourly pay. In the downtown Atlanta area we used to ship over 1K yards a day with 22 drivers. Much less now. so the first thing is to be located at a plant that is busy= more pay. turn a fast load at a commercial pump over and over , maybe at best 14 loads a day = big daily money (average # of loads a day might be 6 or 7 when busy). get sent to a wheel barrow job for 4 hours then a dump run to get ride of the leftover= you just worked for free. truck breaks down, tough luck no break down pay. I have lost up to 9 hours in one day (waiting for towtruck for 4 hours then a 5 hour repair in the main shop) no pay for 9 hours. business slows down= less loads= small check. safety, yah some of us race to the job sites to turn the load faster. guy loaded in front of you has an older mack, bye bye as he will be passed by the guy loaded behind him running a newer international. we have been asked at peak times to drive to 75 hours a week. hour of service violations are overlooked. most loads in a week was 42 mon-fri. we pour out at the job site in the order we arrive so getting there before others is an advantage. our pay is not based on or modified due to size of load. 1 yard pays the same as 9, 9.5 even 10yard loads ( we do not run tag axles company gladly pays overload tickets). Why would a company like pay per load, it creates extreme efficiency with the drivers. we have poured 1600-1800 yard footings with 2 plants in about 6 total hours. nobody sleeping behind a building if they want to earn money. it fixes the cost of each delivery. you get stuck on a job becuase the pump broke down or the forms arnt finished yet, thats out of your pocket. Thats what you have to hope is low, the loads that take longer than the 2.2 hours you have been paid. hopefully it all averages up above the normal hourly pay rate by turning jobs within an hour several times a day to get ahead. Ultimately though it gets tiring chasing the buck. Even when running like a mad man they still tell you your not hauling enough loads or are inefficient.
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