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Post by batchmaster on Jul 17, 2006 9:48:19 GMT -5
the only problem with this that i can think of is that most of the time you aren't getting that water into the front of the load, so when it's dumped, the end of the load might be tight, unless they get it mixed up thoroughly so...i just let it load how it loads, just slow down the load rate a little bit. in my experience, these guys are going to complain no matter what so...might as well give them a reason.
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Post by mixermark on Jan 23, 2008 20:33:25 GMT -5
try loading your headwater first, about 70 percent and after your powder and agg are in drop your tail water in. Been a while since i batched a dry plant i now run a coneco cental batch, nice plant, 310 yds an hour when dispatch can get their scheduling right!
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Post by reamesconcrete1 on Feb 17, 2008 0:20:43 GMT -5
Try letting like half the water discharge first along with whatever admixes yall use then load the sand water cement and fly are c ash if yall use it then let the tail water go in i had the same problem with my new plant it could also be the length of the boot on your blant.
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Post by cementman on Jul 4, 2008 19:19:59 GMT -5
head water, cement/sand, then stone (cleans fins), wash water. i feel this works pretty good. trucks just have to mix well after, otherwise the load will look very stony with the stone in the back of the barrel.
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Post by concretejoe on Jul 4, 2008 23:53:45 GMT -5
head water, cement/sand, then stone (cleans fins), wash water. i feel this works pretty good. trucks just have to mix well after, otherwise the load will look very stony with the stone in the back of the barrel. The O.P. was about grout mixes. So no stone to clean the fins. My advice is to use the same formula except I would add to slow down the material and have more tailwater. |
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Post by probatch on Jul 17, 2008 10:28:14 GMT -5
My opinion to this question is, there is no way to load a grout mix or flowable fill mix where you will make a happy driver.Cementious material+sand-rock=unhappy driver.A few people have stated what i would do in this situation and that is 80% head water,20%tail water.I have my system set up where 80% head water and 20% tail on everything i batch.Freefalling water does almost nothing to the problem the drivers complain about.Best solution for a driver is turn up your water pressure on your trucks,just be carefull i believe there is a law on max water tank pressure.when you slump down peel the layers back off the fins and hopefully it didnt gunk up in your hopper.(i dont miss that hehe)
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Post by Mixer Driver 69 on Jul 27, 2008 19:07:14 GMT -5
51 PSI max on the water tank. My water tank pressurizes at 50. I've seen some tanks pressurize at 40. That really sucks for washing down.
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Post by Crazy Mudder Trucker on Jul 28, 2008 22:57:35 GMT -5
My opinion to this question is, there is no way to load a grout mix or flowable fill mix where you will make a happy driver.Cementious material+sand-rock=unhappy driver.A few people have stated what i would do in this situation and that is 80% head water,20%tail water.I have my system set up where 80% head water and 20% tail on everything i batch.Freefalling water does almost nothing to the problem the drivers complain about.Best solution for a driver is turn up your water pressure on your trucks,just be carefull i believe there is a law on max water tank pressure.when you slump down peel the layers back off the fins and hopefully it didnt gunk up in your hopper.(i dont miss that hehe) I split the water in half. half head and half tail. too much water in the beginning causes dry pack, when your powder, sand and agg stick together. Nothing you do will ever please a driver. NOt your job to keep em happy, hell with time the way they are they should be glad to be getting a load. |
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Post by jlm327 on Sept 15, 2008 9:13:29 GMT -5
LOAD SAND CEMENT AND ADDMIXTURES ALL TOGETHER THEN PUT ALL WATER IN HAVE BEEN LOADING THIS WAY FOR 5 YRS AND IT IS BY FAR THE BEST I'VE SEEN USE TO DRIVE THE TRUCK AND pregnant dogED AT THE OLD DISPATCHER ABOUT IT AND HE FINALLY TRIED IT AND LOW AND BEHOLD DRUM WAS NEARLY SPOTLESS INSIDE
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Post by Yard Bird on Jan 27, 2009 12:24:27 GMT -5
Load 60% of the water and air at the start, then run the aggregate next to dry the fins so buildup wont pack them up. after 25% of the rock and sand are in start the cement with the rest. Allow at least 4,000 lbs of just agg to finish loading that breaks up any caked on cement to break away any build up on the fins, add your calcium last or other addmixes and tailwater on the end. Hence less build-up for the driver and no mud balls. Loading is quick and clean.
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