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Post by concretejoe on Jun 28, 2007 20:25:28 GMT -5
Maximum daily drive time is 11 hours per day. Drive time is defined as anytime spent behind the wheel. This would include sitting in your cab.
You may not drive past 14 hours on duty in a day and 60 hours in a week. You may drive up to the 16th hour on duty one time within the 60 hour period. You must have 10 hours off duty time between shifts. A 24 hour off duty period resets the clock, allowing you to work another 60 hours and one more 16 hour shift.
Examples:
1). You start at 6 a.m. For the first hour you pre-trip and wait to be loaded sitting in break room. The rest of the day you have spent sitting in your truck (driving, pouring,loading and waiting). You didn't get out of the truck even to use the restroom. After 6 p.m. you will not be allowed to drive, because of the 11 hour rule.
You can work, you just can't drive. You can't drive again until you get 10 hours off.
2). You start at 6 a.m. and because you wash down and get out of your truck as often as you can it will take 20 hours to get 11 behind the wheel. At 8 p.m. you will have 14 hours in. Unless the company wants to use it's one time 16 hour day, you can't even be in the cab anymore. You can work, you just can't drive. You can't drive again until you get 10 hours off.
3). Monday you work 16 hours. Tuesday you work 14 hours. Wednesday you work 14 hours. Thursday you work 14 hours. Friday you start at 6 a.m. At 8 a.m. you will be out of hours. You can't be in the cab. You can work, you just can't drive. You can't drive again until you have 24 hours off. Any 24 hours off resets the clock.
On another note, if you let dispatch know over the radio that you can't keep your eyes open so everyone can hear, it's hard for them to fire you if you refuse to drive because your too tired.
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Post by Slick on Jun 30, 2007 12:58:52 GMT -5
we drive using the 15 hr on 8hr off, 70 hr per week.
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Post by concretejoe on Jul 14, 2007 23:12:04 GMT -5
slick I don't think that's legal man. Even doing the 70 hour/8 day work week thing the daily max is 14 hours, except one time a week between 14 and 16 hours. You also have to have 10 hours off between shifts to reset driving time.
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Post by concretejoe on Jul 14, 2007 23:14:28 GMT -5
Also, I forgot to mention that if the company uses the 60 hour/7 day workweek you can only work six days before you have to take 24 hours off. If the company uses the 70 hour/8 day workweek it's 7 days.
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Post by db2179 on Sept 2, 2007 18:11:04 GMT -5
we can work 70hrs in 6 days only one 16 hr day and two 14hr days per week. Must have ten hrs off once you clock out befor your next shift. You had to have 8hrs off begor your next shift but know its ten just got a letter from dept. of trans.
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Post by Slick on Sept 3, 2007 8:00:51 GMT -5
It all has to do with being construction and in state travel, once you go over the state line it all changes.....like this past week, I clocked 70 hrs by Friday morn @9:45 and worked the rest of the day around the plant not driving...ended up with 78.25 hrs for the week....now at home enjoying the 3 day holiday.
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Post by Matt on Sept 12, 2007 17:46:29 GMT -5
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Post by Mort on Oct 2, 2007 20:45:50 GMT -5
Man, ours seems pretty straight forward compared to all that. Work week is Monday through Sunday (but you'll never catch anyone there Sunday). 60 hours is max, except in an emergency. 14 hours per day. 10 hours off. If you get 54 hours before the end of the day Friday, you can refuse to work Saturday (contract thing, not law).
Sounds like we've got it pretty gravy compared to some of you all.
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Post by gant on Oct 6, 2007 20:36:38 GMT -5
yeah our max is 60 but i've gotten 68.. monday-sunday.. same deal as mort if we get 55 on friday we dont have to work on sat. also we can "volunteer" to work over 12 hours a day, but they cant make us.. they will beg the hell out of you, but they cant tell you to get in the truck but I was told by an older driver that one of our drivers turned a mixer over after being on the clock for a little over 13 hours after they begged him to take another load and they fired him for going over 12..union couldnt do anything about it since it was considered voluntary
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Post by cfconcrete on Oct 14, 2007 8:56:32 GMT -5
Wow, we got it easy here! We (I) work on average 8-10 hrs a day, and the senior drivers (like me) get the first pick on Saturday runs. The office tries like hell to give us a light day or early quit if we worked 12, 13 or 14 hours the day before. Senior guys tend to get the tickets for the big pours, DOT work, pumper work, back and forth all day to the same place, while the younger guns get the 5 yard basement floor jobs, driving up and down the street looking for the house....then a place to park not blocking traffic for 20 blocks.
I actually think we got a real good "batch" of guys, from the management, right to the drivers, they don't bust our balls, and we don't cry like babies. (Alas, I'm sure local 294 has something to do with that)
Drive Safe Men
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Post by concretehauler on Nov 20, 2007 16:55:19 GMT -5
That's because mangenment dosen't want to drive on Friday afternoons anymore.
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Post by Cover Driver on Jan 17, 2008 18:20:08 GMT -5
I worked 14 hours yesterday for only 6 loads, one late load. I worked 12 today for only 5 loads. Sleep for about a hour and a half from about 9 to 11.30. We had three transfers in  . I have done a couple of 36 hour shifts before. Whats hours and rules got do do with driving a mixer. In fact you don't even need a license these days, you ain't needed a license for about 5 years now. Just turn up and drive, especially if you from Romania. |
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Post by gant on Jan 17, 2008 21:55:44 GMT -5
here in the states we have rules on how many hours and days we are allowed to drive for safety reasons..and we have to have a Commercial Driver License to drive our trucks
and how do you do 36 hour shifts?
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Post by Cover Driver on Jan 18, 2008 14:14:32 GMT -5
here in the states we have rules on how many hours and days we are allowed to drive for safety reasons..and we have to have a Commercial Driver License to drive our trucks and how do you do 36 hour shifts? We have laws and rules in the UK and Europe too, I was just being sarcastic. What I implying is that the rules don't seem to mean that much here. Yes we have to keep them by law. But 98% of Mixer trucks are franchised, most owner drivers have one truck, some have a few trucks or two. Then you get some company's that franchise a lot of trucks 10+. The 2% is made up of company drivers. Because of the way things are here, most are class as self employed. The company's that concrete company's that franchise trucks to people. Distance them selfs from your affairs. They do this so people can work longer hours and they can't be accused of exploiting their workers. Even if you drive for a company that franchises a large amount of trucks, they make you sign forms stating that you tax is your responsibility. They distant them selfs from their drivers. They can pay less money that way, theirs much less admin because theirs no employee's. All the legal paperwork your shown or sign, is not to make you aware but really to cover themselves legally if the nuts hits the fan. As for needing a license, we do here, but in the last five years we have had a load of people from the eastern European countries come to the UK and most don't have license's, or real or genuine ones anyway, so I was making fun of the fact people seem to be doing what they like and get away with it. As for the 36 hours, done it illegally, will speak about it later when I get time to post. |
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Post by hicups on Jan 25, 2008 15:00:45 GMT -5
Last summer I worked 69 hours, and was so tired, I thought I was going to drop dead from exhaustion ~ not sure of spelling thats why I drive a truck...LOL
You dont have a choice here, you are made to work up to 15 hours per day 5 days a week, and if you have just 1 or 2 hours left they will draft you to work Saturday, I have been told..I have never been that close to running out of hours when they have drafted me to work Saturday...it sucks....all I can say
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Post by Ideal Driver on Jan 25, 2008 15:04:44 GMT -5
We don't have a choice either. We just work til they tell us to wash out. Thats fine with me though, I'd work 80 hrs a week if I could. Love that overtime pay.
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Post by hicups on Jan 25, 2008 15:07:46 GMT -5
If I was a young chicken and Im not, I wouldnt mind working all those hours either...but this body is old, and besides, I like to ride my Harley...LOL
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Post by Ideal Driver on Jan 25, 2008 15:19:15 GMT -5
Oh don't get me wrong I'd rather be out riding! But its nice to be able to pay for the toys. Beside I want a something bigger than my lil Sporty.
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Post by gant on Jan 25, 2008 20:58:31 GMT -5
I work 60 hours a week everyweek.. been that way for the last year.. someweeks we go up to 70 but most of the time we stop at 60.. I'm greedy I never pass on a load and never leave early.. im hopin to make $60k this year.. we dont have to work over 12 hours a day and they cant make us.. our contract states that very clearly..
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Post by lafargeslave on Mar 21, 2008 19:42:59 GMT -5
"we dont have to work over 12 hours a day and they cant make us.. our contract states that very clearly.. "
must be nice. although we are slow now, last year were were "asked" to run 75 hours a week all summer long. I recall doing an 18 hour day, 6 hours off (4 hour sleep) then another 14 the next day. At our plant we have to wake each other up on the radio as the line moves up. one guy fell asleep at the pour site and woke up after 100 yards went by him. can be real crazy at times. many times a 2am pour, if you cant haul 10 yards at a 10 inch slump with the peddle to the floor, dont show up. closest plant to the job gets kicked off the site, they assign one of the city plants to run the loads, and its up to us to not let the service drop off. we get it done. 26 miles each way, 3 fuel tank refills before the job is done.
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Post by herslip98 on Mar 23, 2008 20:47:21 GMT -5
Some times you just have to fudge the log book to get that extra 1 1/2 of drive time.
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Post by Crazy Mudder Trucker on Jul 2, 2008 19:35:58 GMT -5
we drive using the 15 hr on 8hr off, 70 hr per week. we use the same thing here too. |
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Post by concretejoe on Jul 2, 2008 21:01:53 GMT -5
we drive using the 15 hr on 8hr off, 70 hr per week. we use the same thing here too. It's wrong and you better not kill someone while working that schedule. You have to have 10 hours between shifts and you can work up to 14 hours a day except 1 day a week you can work 16. I know we all need as many hours as we can get, but it's not worth the legal trouble in my opinion. The nurnberg defense won't hold water if something happens. Just my two cents. |
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Post by mixedupdiesel on Jul 2, 2008 21:03:26 GMT -5
we use a 7-70?
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Post by Crazy Mudder Trucker on Jul 2, 2008 21:10:59 GMT -5
we use the same thing here too. It's wrong and you better not kill someone while working that schedule. You have to have 10 hours between shifts and you can work up to 14 hours a day except 1 day a week you can work 16. I know we all need as many hours as we can get, but it's not worth the legal trouble in my opinion. The nurnberg defense won't hold water if something happens. Just my two cents. Does'nt this vary from state to state? |
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Post by concretejoe on Jul 2, 2008 21:14:11 GMT -5
Does'nt this vary from state to state? Nope. These are federal rules. States can have stricter requirements, but not looser. |
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Post by Crazy Mudder Trucker on Jul 2, 2008 21:31:42 GMT -5
Does'nt this vary from state to state? Nope. These are federal rules. States can have stricter requirements, but not looser. From my understanding is I can work no more than 15 hrs a day. Can't be loaded after 12 hrs on duty. |
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Post by concretejoe on Jul 3, 2008 5:30:50 GMT -5
Nope. These are federal rules. States can have stricter requirements, but not looser. From my understanding is I can work no more than 15 hrs a day. Can't be loaded after 12 hrs on duty. Who told you this? The company? We all know they ALWAYS have your best interest at heart, right? Do yourself a favor and get hold of a D.O.T. handbook. The rules are simple. 11 hours behind the wheel (ie any time you are in the cab wether you are driving or not), you can not be in the cab after 14 hours on the clock per day except one time per week you can work 16 and no more than 60 hours/week on a 7 day work week or 70 on an 8 day week. 10 hours off resets drive time. 24 hours off resets the work week. |
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Post by Crazy Mudder Trucker on Jul 4, 2008 11:48:57 GMT -5
Condition Federal (Interstate commerce) California (Intrastate commerce)
Driving time You may not drive for more than 11 hours following 10 consecutive hours off duty. You may not drive for more than 12 hours following 8 consecutive hours off duty.
On duty time You may not drive beyond the 14th hour after coming on duty following 10 hours off duty. You may perform work, except for driving, after being on duty for 14 hours. You may not drive after having been on duty for 15 hours. You may perform work, except for driving, after being on duty for 15 hours.
Multiple day on duty time limitations You are not eligible to drive after having been on duty for 60 hours in a 7-day period. However, if a motor carrier has commercial motor vehicles operating 7 days a week, the driver is not eligible to drive after having been on duty for 70 hours in an 8-day period. A driver may restart a 7/8 consecutive day period after taking 34 or more consecutive hours off duty. You are not eligible to drive after having been on duty for 80 hours in any 8 consecutive day period or if transporting farm products after having been on duty 112 hours in any consecutive 8-day period.
Off duty time After driving for 11 hours or being on duty for 14 hours, you may not drive again until you have had 10 consecutive hours off duty
Exception: If the truck is quipped with a sleeper berth, these 10 hours may be broken up into 2 periods provided neither is less than 2 hours.
After driving for 12 hours or being on duty for 15 hours, you may not drive again until you have had 8 consecutive hours off duty.
Exception: If the truck is equipped with a sleeper berth, these 8 hours may be broken up into 2 periods provided neither period is less than 2 hours.
Adverse driving condition You may drive an additional 2 hours if you encounter adverse weather conditions which were not apparent at the start of the trip. You may drive an additional 2 hours if you encounter adverse weather conditions which were not apparent at the start of the trip.
Regardless of the adverse conditions, you are not allowed to drive for more than 14 hours or after having been on duty more than 15 hours.
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Post by concretejoe on Jul 4, 2008 12:49:42 GMT -5
Condition Federal (Interstate commerce) California (Intrastate commerce) Driving time You may not drive for more than 11 hours following 10 consecutive hours off duty. You may not drive for more than 12 hours following 8 consecutive hours off duty. It took some hunting, but I found the chart you are reffering to. The way you posted was a bit confusing. So what you're saying is I should stay away from California because they don't give a rats behind about how tired you get? I didn't think they could weaken federal standards but I guess I was wrong. |
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