speedy
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"Why hump it? Pump it!"
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Post by speedy on Apr 3, 2006 22:35:11 GMT -5
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Post by budman on Apr 9, 2006 22:22:51 GMT -5
Good 4 new drivers, not veterans set in there ways! been through this program and worked for few. not a program for me. stricktly rookies!
"this is my opinion"
Most drivers help each other anyway, so the need of such program i think is waste of$$$$$$$$/time, your drivers that can lead the other drivers down the right path are the mentors in my opinion!! they sould be awarded for there know how! all tho theres a lot that goes on behind the scenes that no one sees! thats were the experience kicks in. thats what i mean by veterans. i could go through a list off things like getting STUCK,FLATS,TOO WET,TOO DRY,GOMMERPILE,IS THIS GUY STUPID?WTF?,WHERES HE GOING?and on and on......oh brother cant beleive im postn this one!!!!!!!!!! but truth hurts!!!!!!!!!!!!! we all been there once or twice rite?gotta keep on truckin tho!! cant let the little things slow ya down! well thats enough 4 now ill let you guys take over.
t-bone
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Post by batchmaster on May 10, 2006 7:39:14 GMT -5
I think with so many things, you can be told what might happen, but you have to experience it to learn from it. yes the basics can be taught about slump, discharging the load, tag axles, washing down, etc, but in so many instances until you encounter a problem on a job to really understand, oh yeah, that's what the trainer meant in this situation. and unless you are going to a pump or conveyor truck or paver, etc, until you get there and see how it actually takes place, then you will be prepared for it the next time.
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Post by nascarfan67 on May 10, 2006 16:56:34 GMT -5
i agree with the batchmaster, but i also believe that this program could help drivers who after years of delivering concrete still cant drive worth a crap. Not mentioning any names , but John Denver piles up everything he pours,Mountain high, like the rocky mountains! Hence the nickname!
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Post by Lyle Pile on May 10, 2006 21:39:05 GMT -5
I love it when the next driver behind you for the curb machine comes up, climbs up on your fender and says " So, thats a curb machine huh?".
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Post by batchmaster on May 11, 2006 6:22:53 GMT -5
yep, like I said, you can tell someone how it should work, what kind of slumps they pour or whatever, maybe it's just me but I learn best hands on, well I catch on faster that way anyhow, wouldn't say that I can't learn from reading or explanation, but hands on has always been the best for me, and driving a mixer is a hands on type experience.
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Post by lumponcouch on May 28, 2006 19:43:31 GMT -5
All the training in the world is not going to teach a rookie driver how to handle that one customer who for some reason is in a rotten ass mood and the last thing he wants to see is a rookie driver with a wet load or doesn't even know what a slump is!!
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Post by Driver on May 29, 2006 6:46:57 GMT -5
I think its guys like lumponcouch talks about,,,Just may contribute to the high rate of turn over in this indrustry..chances are this type of contractor would have a problem with being
Everyone has to start out and learn..
OJT continues on a daily basis no matter how long ya been dumping mud,,ya can learn something everyday,Every one of us could struggle on a job site tomorrow & if ya deny that your lying ;D
To all the newbies:
Just get out on your fender and tell him ya deliver to the end of the chute,,,,,,He gets paid to place and finish it ;D ;D
(Well maybe ya better wait till ya figure out if he likes ya or not)
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Post by lumponcouch on May 29, 2006 7:12:07 GMT -5
Very true a nasty contractor can make a new guy want to quit very quickly. Most contractors are pretty good with working with new guys and when they get to know you a little better they get a whole lot nicer to work with . I still can remember how nervous I was going to my first delivery all by myself in a mack all wheeler( rear) having to do just 3 yds of curb and wondering if the contractor would be nice I had never poured curb before a little messy but I got through it fine.
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Post by batchmaster on Jun 1, 2006 7:09:28 GMT -5
that's why the windows roll up, i tell the guys just do the best you can and if you can't take the heat from the contractor, just roll em up.
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Post by concretebiatch on Jun 30, 2006 15:59:56 GMT -5
Ok, I have a question and Im not real sure what topic to put it under so Im just gonna leave it here... my question goes to batchmaster... Im curious about something and Im not complaining or anything just wondering on the situation.... I understand that work is real slow at the plant for this time of year compared to recent years, anyway, if you all get a big pour coming in several yards that is, how come you call in trucks from other plants to help with the day and not just let the drivers you have working do the job? I mean, Im not a driver so I dont quite understand, but wouldnt it be better to work the guys you have at home than to call in different plants for trucks??? Im not complaining or anything, just curious is all.....  |
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Post by batchmaster on Jul 7, 2006 7:05:56 GMT -5
customer service. if i can't give the customer what they want/need, then we don't service the job and that affects jobs in the future, if they want 100 yards an hour and with travel time, pour time and wash time (don't forget about load time) i can only do seventy yards an hour with the trucks i have, then we fell short. as far as affecting jobs in the future, they remember, hey these guys couldn't get us what they wanted the last job so...we aren't going to give them this job. it would be nice if i could just say like budman...you're going to take what i give ya and like it, it doesn't work that way. this industry is dictated by customer service. did that help? plus i have guys that like to wash their truck loaded and waste time in the yard stuff like that so, it hurts customer service. i have to get those guys that hustle from other plants. mine screw around. wow...can't wait for the response on this one!!! j/k though. when we have a big pour these guys step up. but it would be nice to get everyone a full day just by only using my trucks...but if i need more for that customer service, we have plenty so...that's what i have to do.
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Post by batchmaster on Jul 7, 2006 7:10:54 GMT -5
oh and right now too, the way that things are, everybody wants their mud when they order it...if they want it at 7:00 am and you tell them that 9:30 is better for you, they say that they will just call somebody else. so sometimes if i have everybody busy first round, and can't take care of someone then i have to get extra trucks. no one will move around, you have to take the order for when they want it.
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Post by concretebiatch on Jul 21, 2006 2:55:13 GMT -5
Well under the circumstances that has arose.... Im not sure me reply to this will get a response cause Im as clueless to everything as Im sure most of you are LOL... It took me this long to respond to this question I asked you batchmaster cause I forgot where I put the post LOL... no Im not blonde, just slow sometimes.... but anyway, yes batchmaster that does answer the question.... thanks for your input and even though you may not hear it for your drivers, but you do great work ;D Hope everyone is doing fine and I hope to still see you all making your appearance here Bye all.....
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Post by concretejoe on Jan 9, 2007 16:56:23 GMT -5
i agree with the batchmaster, but i also believe that this program could help drivers who after years of delivering concrete still cant drive worth a crap. I disagree. If they've been a driver for years and "still cant drive worth a crap" they need to seriously consider another line of work. This job may look easy, but there is a lot involved. Not everyone is cut out for it. |
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Post by batchmaster on May 3, 2007 21:30:01 GMT -5
after they are vested, how do you get rid of crappy drivers? you can't. unless they have a major screwup, or should I say 3...i've seen crappy drivers fired, only to have the union get them back in and get them paid for the time they missed. sad.
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Post by Yard Bird on Feb 12, 2009 19:42:03 GMT -5
Everyone reading this was a rookie once. A trainer cannot show a trainee everything, if he could he would be stuck with the guy for years. There comes a time when all set out on their own for the first time and yes mistakes will be made. Its up to the everyone to either learn from his or her mistakes or go elsewhere for a job. There are to many job types and situations for a trainee to learn them all in few weeks. If you learn from your mistakes then you will have a job for many years if not then you might be looking for another job real quick. (as the drum turns) |
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Post by Mixer Driver 69 on Feb 12, 2009 23:15:48 GMT -5
The real learning begins when the trainee gets his own truck.
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Post by BillyCement on Feb 13, 2009 16:58:43 GMT -5
The real learning begins when the trainee gets his own truck. |
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Post by Mort on Feb 14, 2009 17:05:40 GMT -5
I hated training at my old job, because I would be on auto-pilot all day, not realizing that the dudes I was training needed to know all the stuff I was doing. So needless to say, I will not be volunteering to be a driver trainer (if we ever hire anybody again).
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gant
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Post by gant on Feb 14, 2009 17:59:31 GMT -5
I've trained a few guys..we dont have set trainers.. they just stick the new guys with a different driver everyday so he can see how everyone does it and not just one person..
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Post by concretejoe on Feb 15, 2009 2:28:28 GMT -5
There are to many job types and situations for a trainee to learn them all in few weeks. The only way a rookie will gain experience is to experience it. |
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Post by Mort on Feb 15, 2009 22:03:56 GMT -5
There are to many job types and situations for a trainee to learn them all in few weeks. The only way a rookie will gain experience is to experience it. It'd be cool to have a senior driver follow them to a job, if its something different. That's how I did my first OshKosh load, since a trainer riding on the fender was out of the question. |
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