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Post by Yard Bird on Apr 13, 2009 11:03:04 GMT -5
Your kidding me right?  . I know its required but it looks like a 5 gallon bucket with a drain valve on it!!!! You have to wonder who thinks up this crap....... We don't have these here (thank goodness),,, I'll take and use a bucket with a rope instead or get the customer to help. Who are they kidding, what good is that thing besides going to a pump?. Lets see 3 chutes, 2" slump and a 1/4 yard still in the chutes, (what are you supposed to do then?). Better off going back to the plant dirty then using what looks like a expensive tupperware addition. That does it,,,,I say we come up with a better mouse trap everyone!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Fill it with ice and keep your lunch cold, at least you'll have more room in the cab ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by gant on Apr 13, 2009 11:24:44 GMT -5
I washed out in a 5 gallon bucket the otherday with 3chutes, it was fun..I just googled it and those things are $1500 unless you sign a contract with them and then they are 1300, I think I could design something alot better than that.. thats retarted..
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Post by Mort on Apr 13, 2009 11:37:30 GMT -5
We use them. I use them as rarely as possible, but sometimes you've just got to do it. Our company even charges extra, because of the time it takes.
They don't really work unless you scrape the chutes all the way out, and CDF clogs the hoses for some reason. And don't bother: You'll never get all the slurry out of the bottom.
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Post by Mixer Driver 69 on Apr 13, 2009 13:15:19 GMT -5
Do you have to empty that little thing out when you get back to the plant?
Looks to me like it's just another thing to have to keep clean.
Yea, I've had to do the 5 gallon bucket thing quite a few times... up and down the friggin' ladder. 
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Post by gant on Apr 13, 2009 14:54:30 GMT -5
there was a laboror down there with the bucket, I kept washing and didnt worry about it, he would dump the water out in the street and I kept washing, they jst didnt want the rock in the street..
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Post by BillyCement on Apr 13, 2009 15:47:43 GMT -5
I had one on my truck and it was a disaster. The sand and gravel clogged the screen in the removable bucket. When it wasn't being used the bucket would get filled with cement dust and water. Over the course of a week or so it would build up and I'd have to hammer it out. Finally, I hammered it a bit too hard and put a hole in the bottom of the bucket. That ended that. 
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Post by Matt on Apr 13, 2009 15:51:12 GMT -5
Washout Watchdog wanted me to place a link on the site for them once. I was painfully honest and told them most of what you guys have already mentioned. If any company was interested in this product, it could be duplicated for a fraction of the cost at the local hardware store by any crafty individual.
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Post by concretejoe on Apr 13, 2009 20:35:40 GMT -5
Washout Watchdog wanted me to place a link on the site for them once. I was painfully honest and told them most of what you guys have already mentioned. If any company was interested in this product, it could be duplicated for a fraction of the cost at the local hardware store by any crafty individual. Were they going to pay? I might have taken their money then PM'ed everyone about what a waste it was. |
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Post by davethepumper on Apr 13, 2009 22:18:54 GMT -5
It sucks, but it is the law. In MN you can not wash your chutes without containing the water either in a lined pit or one of these contraptions. The law in MN was written by some knucklehead that has no idea what they are talking about. They are worried about the heavy metals (like chromium) that are in the cement getting into the groundwater.
We kept hearing from some of these manufacturers "THEY USE THEM ALL THE TIME IN CANADA" well oh brilliant one, MN is farther north than most of the population of Canada and we have harsher weather than those population centers. Kinda like the plastic water tanks and pumps that McNeilus tried to sell us. Check your geography kids.
/get off my lawn
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Post by Mort on Apr 13, 2009 23:49:50 GMT -5
It sucks, but it is the law. In MN you can not wash your chutes without containing the water either in a lined pit or one of these contraptions. The law in MN was written by some knucklehead that has no idea what they are talking about. They are worried about the heavy metals (like chromium) that are in the cement getting into the groundwater. We kept hearing from some of these manufacturers "THEY USE THEM ALL THE TIME IN CANADA" well oh brilliant one, MN is farther north than most of the population of Canada and we have harsher weather than those population centers. Kinda like the plastic water tanks and pumps that McNeilus tried to sell us. Check your geography kids. /get off my lawn That's the law in Washington also. How its written is that the ground IS the water table. Therefore, since concrete slurry is an alkaline, it screws up the pH. So, lined holes, eco pans, or those stupid buckets. Or, if the washout is contained and prepped for concrete or asphalt, so I hear that some people stretch the meaning of that a little... |
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Post by sswt on Apr 14, 2009 8:31:50 GMT -5
i talked to one of the guys at the shop....these cost right around 1800 per truck to get them mounted up................if i didnt hate them so much allready (and ive only used the stupid thing once) id feel bad when i rip it off this summer on the job
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Post by sswt on Apr 14, 2009 8:33:36 GMT -5
Washout Watchdog wanted me to place a link on the site for them once. I was painfully honest and told them most of what you guys have already mentioned. If any company was interested in this product, it could be duplicated for a fraction of the cost at the local hardware store by any crafty individual. and i did push for this, an empty 55 gallon acid drum is way cheaper and the bossman isnt going to have a coranary when we rip them off......but then again we are just stupid truck drivers |
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Post by LEAD DOG on Apr 14, 2009 10:23:12 GMT -5
GEEZ! I'VE BEEN TO SEVEN COUNTY FAIRS AND THREE HOG CALLS, BUT NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT! YOU NEED TO PUT A PORTA-JOHN STICKER ON THAT!
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Post by Mort on Apr 14, 2009 11:57:42 GMT -5
Just tell them to find a garbage can with a garbage bag. What they do with it after that is none of your business, thank you very much. Afterall, even legal washouts such as Visqueen-lined pits are not guaranteed to be emptied legally.
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Post by Mixer Driver 69 on Apr 14, 2009 16:00:36 GMT -5
GEEZ! I'VE BEEN TO SEVEN COUNTY FAIRS AND THREE HOG CALLS, BUT NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT! YOU NEED TO PUT A PORTA-JOHN STICKER ON THAT! |
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Post by Mixer Driver 69 on Apr 14, 2009 16:34:27 GMT -5
It sucks, but it is the law. In MN you can not wash your chutes without containing the water either in a lined pit or one of these contraptions. The law in MN was written by some knucklehead that has no idea what they are talking about. They are worried about the heavy metals (like chromium) that are in the cement getting into the groundwater. We kept hearing from some of these manufacturers "THEY USE THEM ALL THE TIME IN CANADA" well oh brilliant one, MN is farther north than most of the population of Canada and we have harsher weather than those population centers. Kinda like the plastic water tanks and pumps that McNeilus tried to sell us. Check your geography kids. /get off my lawn  |
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Post by BillyCement on Apr 14, 2009 16:43:48 GMT -5
GEEZ! I'VE BEEN TO SEVEN COUNTY FAIRS AND THREE HOG CALLS, BUT NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT! YOU NEED TO PUT A PORTA-JOHN STICKER ON THAT! ;D ;D |
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Post by gant on Apr 14, 2009 17:38:55 GMT -5
^^ I was gonna make one of those for dear season.. better than shltting in the woods
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Post by Mixer Driver 69 on Apr 14, 2009 19:15:31 GMT -5
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Post by Crazy Mudder Trucker on Apr 14, 2009 20:49:32 GMT -5
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Post by concreteman on Apr 16, 2009 15:49:18 GMT -5
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Post by Mixer Driver 69 on Apr 16, 2009 20:02:37 GMT -5
^^^ Unfortunately, Youtube tells me:
This video is not available in your country.
What up wit dat? 
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Post by concreteman on Apr 17, 2009 12:47:46 GMT -5
Oh dear..I'm sorry about that. I don't know why thats not working. Maybe it serves me right for putting non mixer driving subjects on this forum!!
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Post by Mort on Apr 17, 2009 20:31:11 GMT -5
No, you need to use a British proxy server, for some reason. Then the website thinks you're a Brit.
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Post by Mixer Driver 69 on Apr 17, 2009 21:09:55 GMT -5
Maybe it serves me right for putting non mixer driving subjects on this forum!! |
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Post by concreteman on Apr 19, 2009 15:11:50 GMT -5
Ok i'll try another way..If you copy and paste this into youtube you should be able to view it
"Clarkson's Bumper Dumper - Top Gear: Polar Special - BBC Two"
Try that
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Post by concreteman on Apr 19, 2009 15:23:19 GMT -5
On the subject of the self-contained washout device at the head of the page, it looks like a reasonably good idea...but reading some of the posts it looks like they are more of a hinderance then anything!
We don't have anything like that in the UK (well ive never seen one in the UK) but the law isn't as strict over here when it comes to polluting the water table. Seems like some of you guys in the States are having to deal with some real strict laws! I'm surprised by what Mort said, that the ground IS the water table and thats the law.
What I try to do on site, especially if washing down near a road or pavement (where I would use a wheelbarrow), is make sure any residue is washed away so it looks like I was never there! Its too easy for local residents to ring up the company and complain about cement in the road. Its not worth the hassle I get so I just spend an extra couple of minutes just making sure that everything is tidy before I leave. And 9 times out of ten the customer appreciates it!
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Post by Mort on Apr 19, 2009 17:09:34 GMT -5
concreteman, yeah, I think it varies state-to-state, but there are a bunch of environmentalist wackos where I live. The city made us put a wheel wash in at our plant because (no joke!) the pH of the dirt on the asphalt on our road was out of whack. I'm just waiting for them to outlaw concrete and make people stack rocks on top of each other to build stuff.
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Post by Yard Bird on Apr 20, 2009 7:37:07 GMT -5
Its amazing, when you think about it. Its OK to pour wet cement on dirt for a driveway but we as driver's are not allowed to wash the chutes on the dirt  . Whats even more amazing the customers wash their tools right in the gutter. I'm all for keeping the slurry out of the gutter but on dirt!!!!. It dries in one day and can at least be mixed back into the backfill. To many people that have their priorities mixed up, (common sense) is gone these days. If anyone ever comes up with a way to wash out easy they will make millions ;D ;D ;D |
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. Whats even more amazing the customers wash their tools right in the gutter. I'm all for keeping the slurry out of the gutter but on dirt!!!!. It dries in one day and can at least be mixed back into the backfill. To many people that have their priorities